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edgar hoover and the fbi uncovering personal peck a dill ohs and using them for political game. >>> right now on "first look," new details surrounding the scandal involving two u.s. generals and the women they were involved with. >>> president obama will face the media head on regarding petraeus and allen, as well as the nation's fiscal cliff. >>> and a tragic plane crash kills three pilots on their way to an faa safety conference. well, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and today for the first time we expect to hear from president obama directly as his administration is rocked by scandals involving two of the men he counted on most, former cia director david petraeus and afghan war commander general john allen. well, the newest headlines in the investigation are creating even more of a tangled web. this morning "the wall street journal" reports general allen, who is now under investigation for e-mails between he and jill kelley of tampa, florida, is telling associates that he received an e-mail traced back to paula broadwell, the petraeus biographer accused of sending harassing e-m
edgar hoover and the fbi uncovering personal peck a dill ohs and using them for political game. >>> right now on "first look," new details surrounding the scandal involving two u.s. generals and the women they were involved with. >>> president obama will face the media head on regarding petraeus and allen, as well as the nation's fiscal cliff. >>> and a tragic plane crash kills three pilots on their way to an faa safety conference. well, good morning,...
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months before the fbi was brought on to the case. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. some lawmakers are demanding that general petraeus testify at some point about the deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi which he independently investigated. >>> incumbent senator scott brown of massachusetts who lost to elizabeth warren is calling on his republican party to move to the middle. >> we need to be a larger party. i'm a pro-choice moderate republican, there's a vanishing breed. you know that now. you've lost joe lieberman, richard lugar, kent conrad, me, olympia snowe. that group in the middle, it's vanishing and there are on both sides there are extremes as you all know kind of pushing back against the middle. i've always felt that that group in the middle is, quite frankly, the most powerful group because they're able to get to that 60-vote fleshhold and get things done so i'm hopeful we'll be a more tolerant, you know, open-minded party. >> there is speculation that brown could make another run for national if president obama names senator john kerry to his c
months before the fbi was brought on to the case. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. some lawmakers are demanding that general petraeus testify at some point about the deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi which he independently investigated. >>> incumbent senator scott brown of massachusetts who lost to elizabeth warren is calling on his republican party to move to the middle. >> we need to be a larger party. i'm a pro-choice moderate republican,...
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the fbi discovered the affair while discovering hostile e-mail's. some of those females were for flirtatcious. >> he is doing an excellent job. he certainly has my continued confidence. his nomination has been put on hold as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. we will. a senior defense official says allen has denied wrongdoing. questions are now being raised about the motives of an f-b-i agent involved in the investigation. the agent who was the first person jill kelley approached about broadwell's e-mails had previously sent photos of himself, shirtless, to kelley. that's according to a u-s official.who says that agent was never part of the case. jill kelley tried to claim some sort of government privilege when she called 9-1-1 sunday to complain about reporters outside her home in tampa. >> this should not be able to stay on my property. in reality, kelley is just a volunteer. she is not a government employee, and is not entitled to diplomatic protection. general >> william ward improperly spent thousands of dollars on lavish
the fbi discovered the affair while discovering hostile e-mail's. some of those females were for flirtatcious. >> he is doing an excellent job. he certainly has my continued confidence. his nomination has been put on hold as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. we will. a senior defense official says allen has denied wrongdoing. questions are now being raised about the motives of an f-b-i agent involved in the investigation. the agent who was the first person jill...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eri
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find...
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the fbi found out it was broadwell sending those e-mails. according to the washington post, the e-mail described kelley as a seductress. for more on where things stand we're joined by chief white house correspondent -- mike isikoff, and of course we've got david corn, who's on the show now from mother jones. let me talk about this, first of all. i think it was interesting of the president to give almost a complete snow white description of this guy. he referred to the affair, which is the reason he's being removed from office, as a single side note. i mean, bill clinton went through -- >> yeah, yeah. >> this guy get a single side note. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obama worried about petraeus? >> i think it's -- i think he's being gracious now. i think maybe buyer's
the fbi found out it was broadwell sending those e-mails. according to the washington post, the e-mail described kelley as a seductress. for more on where things stand we're joined by chief white house correspondent -- mike isikoff, and of course we've got david corn, who's on the show now from mother jones. let me talk about this, first of all. i think it was interesting of the president to give almost a complete snow white description of this guy. he referred to the affair, which is the...
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so the fbi is the place to go. >> the deputy director of the fbi shawn joyce is going to make an appearance on capitol hill to brief leaders of the house and senate intelligence committee to say why they also were not kept in the loop regarding the investigation of general petraeus. this story has taken several strange turns in the past 24-hours. we caught our first glimpse of paula broadwell and found her driver's license was found on a jogging trail in washington. the scandal that started with broadwell has ballooned to include the top u.s. commander in afghanistan general john allen accused of sending several00 e-mails to kelley that were like phone-sex over e-mail. it is time right now to hold off judging general allen. >> general allen is doing an excellent job in leading the forces. he has my continued confidence to lead other forces and to continue the fight. his nomination has been put on hold as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. >> general allen is a decemb distinguished marine and commander who has been an important part of the nato isap mission. i don't hav
so the fbi is the place to go. >> the deputy director of the fbi shawn joyce is going to make an appearance on capitol hill to brief leaders of the house and senate intelligence committee to say why they also were not kept in the loop regarding the investigation of general petraeus. this story has taken several strange turns in the past 24-hours. we caught our first glimpse of paula broadwell and found her driver's license was found on a jogging trail in washington. the scandal that...
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she is the tampa socialite whose complaints about threatening e-mails drug erred the fbi investigation that led to the resignation of cia director david petraeus. turn out kelley was in communication with general allen, the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. how did she know him? kelley volunteered to organize social events for senior officers at her home near mcdill air force base in tampa. the e-mails between general allen and kelley are said to be flirtatious and owe tensionally embarrassing but officials with knowledge of the e-mails say they were not sexually ex- police sit and did not offer any evidence of an affair. but, now, general allen's nomination to lead nato is in limbo. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading those forces. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and continue the fight. but his nomination has been put on hold as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. >> reporter: for the first time sin the scandal broke, president obama weighed in on general david petr
she is the tampa socialite whose complaints about threatening e-mails drug erred the fbi investigation that led to the resignation of cia director david petraeus. turn out kelley was in communication with general allen, the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. how did she know him? kelley volunteered to organize social events for senior officers at her home near mcdill air force base in tampa. the e-mails between general allen and kelley are said to be flirtatious and owe tensionally embarrassing...
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>> late last night the fbi drops by the home of paula
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i mean, do you call the fbi if you get a creepy e e-mail? if i called the fbi every time, they would need to set up a bureau here at 30 rock. here's another question. in spite of the conspiracy theories this was designed to undercut general petraeus before he testified on thursday about benghazi, this was a democratic plot to protect the president from hard questions and now even after the election. in light of those conspiracy theories which are being portrayed as fact on the right, how are we supposed to make light of the fact that two republican congressmen were apparently read in on this investigation by the fbi ahead of the white house and ahead of it going through more official channels. if this weren't the krerkt director of the cia this would not be an important story at all. but because each new detail takes the story in a new direction and every civilian involved in the case has hired high profile lawyers and because there's so many unanswered questions, this story rivals anything else going on in the country right now. the reporte
i mean, do you call the fbi if you get a creepy e e-mail? if i called the fbi every time, they would need to set up a bureau here at 30 rock. here's another question. in spite of the conspiracy theories this was designed to undercut general petraeus before he testified on thursday about benghazi, this was a democratic plot to protect the president from hard questions and now even after the election. in light of those conspiracy theories which are being portrayed as fact on the right, how are we...
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. >> reporter: he wouldn't talk about the e-mails between allen and jill kelley who sought out the fbi after getting a series of threatening message that made her think somebody was stalk her and her friend. kelley reached out to fred humphries whose lawyer said he launched the investigation and went to congress when he thought there was a cover up. >> if we hadn't had an individual that apparently believed in right and wrong with no gray we may never have gotten to where we are in this case. >> reporter: the threatening e- mails send to kelley allegedly came from paula broadwel, l who is dodging the media. her security clearance as revoked they continue to look at why she had classified documents on her computer. the president said he believes there was no security l aps e. despite knowing about the affair for more than a month before the election the fbi didn't tell the white house. they are defending their actions, the president said he is with holding judgement and is waiting for a full explanation. abc news new york. >> bp agrees to pay $4.5 billion in cash to the government for t
. >> reporter: he wouldn't talk about the e-mails between allen and jill kelley who sought out the fbi after getting a series of threatening message that made her think somebody was stalk her and her friend. kelley reached out to fred humphries whose lawyer said he launched the investigation and went to congress when he thought there was a cover up. >> if we hadn't had an individual that apparently believed in right and wrong with no gray we may never have gotten to where we are in...
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i have a lot of confidence in the fbi. probably to be expected. there is a lot riding on what her statement is going to be. >> paula broadwell held a high security clearance. that has been suspended pending outcome of the investigation. >> we have learned through a federal law enforcement official send e-la broadwell to other senior military officials besides general petraeus. these e-mails are characterized as an attempt to undermine the kelley.on of a jail -- jill kelley. ispresident obama said he he and congress together and reach a deal. he believest said the wealthy should pay more and says the american people believe him as well. house speaker john boehner said do want togop with the president, but they do not want to raise taxes. the two sides cannot come up deal, spending cuts and taxes kick in automatically january 1. one of the nation's most is castingusinessmen forecast. warren buffett says there will recession if spending cuts and higher taxes becomes the law. calling on house make a dealto happen. if 25 republicans decide to pushed th
i have a lot of confidence in the fbi. probably to be expected. there is a lot riding on what her statement is going to be. >> paula broadwell held a high security clearance. that has been suspended pending outcome of the investigation. >> we have learned through a federal law enforcement official send e-la broadwell to other senior military officials besides general petraeus. these e-mails are characterized as an attempt to undermine the kelley.on of a jail -- jill kelley....
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plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment started the initial investigation. a senior defense official traveling with panetta says 20,000 to 30,000 pages of epail and other documents from general allen's communications with kelley are under review. the official says general allen disputes engaging in any wrong doing in the matter. the fbi referred the matter to the department of defense for investigation on sunday. early this morning secretary panetta directed that the defense department's inspector general investigate. last night fbi agents went to the home of biographer paula broadwell, the woman government officials say
plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment...
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why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then would this all have happened. that's sort of the cleopatra's nose theory. if she had an ugly nose, would history have been different. that's an interesting question to discuss but i don't think it's a fundamental one. >> this revelation that apparently the investigation was concluded four days before the election clearly somebody has decided, whoever that may be and i'm sure we'll find out in the forms of time, that the information should not be passed to the white house, although i share your concern about the white house's blanket denial they
why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then...
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fbi has uncover between 20,000 and 30,000 documents. mostly e-mails sent between allen and this woman, jill kelley. a senior defense official tells msnbc that the e-mails were inappropriate. kelley was the target of paula broad we'll's e-mails. the associated press that broadwell thought of kelley as a romantic rival for petraeus affection. he was supposed to start the process this week to be the next commander of american forces in europe and supreme allied commander of nato, allen will remain commander in afghanistan. . >>> i don't even know where to begin. how does this happen? >> well, i don't know it happens. particularly in the digital age. the idea that people think that if you have thousands of e-mails that they're not going to be picked up and found out it's sort of amazing. what's most disturbing, this is a terrible time from a foreign policy standpoint to have petraeus out. scandals that are taking key players out of afghanistan, syrian discussions. country that the president has a lot going on right now. >> we were joking co
fbi has uncover between 20,000 and 30,000 documents. mostly e-mails sent between allen and this woman, jill kelley. a senior defense official tells msnbc that the e-mails were inappropriate. kelley was the target of paula broad we'll's e-mails. the associated press that broadwell thought of kelley as a romantic rival for petraeus affection. he was supposed to start the process this week to be the next commander of american forces in europe and supreme allied commander of nato, allen will remain...
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the journal reports that kelley tried to get the fbi to drop the investigation that began with kelley's complaint with harassing e-mails traced back to broadwell. people familiar with the case tell the journal that she became worried about personal information being provided to investigators. meanwhile, the washington post quotes senior law enforcement officials saying the search conducted at broadwell's home monday night marks an interest in how she became interested in classified files. kelley said she had state department status that owe sfigs alls say she did not have. news crews, including nbc, staked out her home. at one point she invoked diplomatic privileges. >> i am an honorary consul general so i have inviolability. they shouldn't be able to get into my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection as well. >> just who is jill kelley. her name has come up in connection with two of the nation's top commanders. more now on her story from nbc's kristin walker. >> mrs. kelley, how are you doing? >> reporter: jill kelley was well known in social circles around tam
the journal reports that kelley tried to get the fbi to drop the investigation that began with kelley's complaint with harassing e-mails traced back to broadwell. people familiar with the case tell the journal that she became worried about personal information being provided to investigators. meanwhile, the washington post quotes senior law enforcement officials saying the search conducted at broadwell's home monday night marks an interest in how she became interested in classified files....
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meantime the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home. jill kelley's brother calls her the victim. >> she took issue with it. when she took issue, she didn't realize it was going to spark this storm. >> reporter: in washington congress wants to know why it took several days for them and the president to learn about petraeus. >> we need to focus on bigger issues. there was no national security breach. the fbi said it and i think that's the end of the story. >> reporter: lawmakers want to hear from petraeus not just on his affair but the investigation into the deaths in benghazi. back to the information about allen. it's important to note a senior official says allen did nothing inappropriate. the inspector general is investigating. >> tracie potts in washington. thank you. >>> general allen's boss, defense secretary leon panetta was the man in charge of the cia before petraeus. as tracie mentioned last night, speaking while aboard a flight to australia, panetta reacted to the petraeus scandal. >> it was a very sad situation to have a disti
meantime the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home. jill kelley's brother calls her the victim. >> she took issue with it. when she took issue, she didn't realize it was going to spark this storm. >> reporter: in washington congress wants to know why it took several days for them and the president to learn about petraeus. >> we need to focus on bigger issues. there was no national security breach. the fbi said it and i think that's the end of the story....
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fbi got access to her e-mail account and found she sent them. but they said her e-mail account also included what appeared to be suggestive e-mails from david petraeus, that first they wondered if somebody hacked into his private account. interviewed separately, both admitted their affair, officials say. broadwell, in late september, petraeus, in october, low-level documents were found on her computer. abling -- agents eventually determined she had proper access to them prosecutors found there was no no leaking of classified information.n. no threat to national security. some say they, or at least president obama should have been told about the investigation while it was going on. >> once the fbi realized they were investigating the cia director, or they came within the scope, i believe at that time they had the absolute need to tell the president. >> reporter: but the justice department official says the fbi never tells other agencies when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation. they note that federal law says that congressional inte
fbi got access to her e-mail account and found she sent them. but they said her e-mail account also included what appeared to be suggestive e-mails from david petraeus, that first they wondered if somebody hacked into his private account. interviewed separately, both admitted their affair, officials say. broadwell, in late september, petraeus, in october, low-level documents were found on her computer. abling -- agents eventually determined she had proper access to them prosecutors found there...
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see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a predicate and is this a priority. that's not clear until you trace this for awhile and get to petraeus, and the question i'm raising is why, what was the predicate, why did they pursue it. >> once it gets to petraeus, tom, and i want your expertise here, what would happen? because i would imagine as soon as they realized david petraeus is involved, there must be a whole series of hoops they have to jump through or markers they have to hit. >> once they identified paula broadwell as the sender of the messages to kelley, then they subpoena the rest of her records and they see an exchange of anony
see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a...
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bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of the cia and having worked closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe there is a responsibility to make sure they're informed. did they handle this correctly? >> no. somebody dropped the ball. you never blind side the president. when a senior official in his administration under investigation when e-mails are being read, you inform the white house at a very high level. national security adviser. his council. even the president himself. you always do that. it's a standing protocol inside the federal government. never blindside the president. as far as i've se
bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of...
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kelley you may recall is the same married mom of three, who set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a senior government official telling nbc news, the agent sent shirtless photos to jill kelley prior to the investigation. now, as the inquiries into allen and petraeus move forward, congress is reconvening on capitol hill about the original fbi investigation. >> the elements on in some ways of a hollywood movie, once this investigation, whenever david petraeus's name came up, they had an only giggs to tell the president. >> the defense secretary leon panetta telling reporters that congressional intelligence leaders should have been notified and much sooner. >> i believe that there's a responsibility to mak
kelley you may recall is the same married mom of three, who set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a...
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sure, 's been a tough few days for general allen since the fbi probe implicated him. some defensive issues with the pentagon told us that these e- mails were flirtatious and we've been turned over to the inspector general. they came from the fbi and the implication is there was no suggestion of any criminal conduct, but you might have some uniform code of military justice violations like conduct unbecoming of an officer or service discrediting or adultery. these are all crimes under the military code before you make it sound as though allen could be in danger of more than just losing his promotion. he could be in the same kind of trouble as four-star general petraeus. >> perhaps more so herself because he's still an active duty officer and subject to the uniform code of military justice. so i think based on my conversations with the pentagon today, that is where the investigation is leading at this point. >> a lot of people are wondering whether or not this is just a one off, an out liar or is this -- outlier or a window into what goes on all the time in the military
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she turned over all of her e-mails to an fbi agent she knew never realizing the i will pact they would have. jill kelley never had an affair with general allen. the e-mails had enough inappropriate language to warrant an investigation. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isaf in leading those forces. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to at this point the fight. >> reporter: the fbi continues looking through documents they took monday night from broadwell's home but so far have found no evidence of anything highly classified. the pentagon suspended broadwell's security clearances and they revoked jill kelley's pass to the air force base. >>> overseas now where fears of a new war in the middle east are on the rise after israeli's took out the top israeli commander of hamas. just this morning the first israeli fatalities. three people killed in rocket fire from the gaza strip. nbc's martin fletcher is live with us in tel aviv. good morning to you. >> reporter: they were standing on their balcony watching a
she turned over all of her e-mails to an fbi agent she knew never realizing the i will pact they would have. jill kelley never had an affair with general allen. the e-mails had enough inappropriate language to warrant an investigation. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isaf in leading those forces. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to at this point the fight. >> reporter: the fbi continues looking...